tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4814881861977660133.post5135738998421692187..comments2022-09-19T18:31:54.712+01:00Comments on A bit about everything: Gaggia Classic. Steam wand upgrade.Ruslan Kabalinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00455389293184492230noreply@blogger.comBlogger82125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4814881861977660133.post-4398668918060008382022-03-09T11:29:13.064+00:002022-03-09T11:29:13.064+00:00Hi,
I am also considering this mod - altough I hav...Hi,<br />I am also considering this mod - altough I have the 2018+ version with the new steam wand. Could you please confirm that the water tank can be pulled out without any cutout on it? I mean there is enough space - okay the wand should be tilted - but that is okay for me.Icemanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14920751860205764404noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4814881861977660133.post-8553728651351434262021-05-14T08:18:32.019+01:002021-05-14T08:18:32.019+01:00Thanks for sharing such an informative post.Thanks for sharing such an informative post.espresso-workshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02097059805859488239noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4814881861977660133.post-79042115914223392932021-04-19T21:08:42.525+01:002021-04-19T21:08:42.525+01:00On further consideration I have to reverse my comm...On further consideration I have to reverse my comment about pressure affecting steam quality. I don't think it does on my Gaggia Classic. If I'm not mistaken the pressure referred to is that of the pressure relief valve while pumping. The pump doesn't run while steaming. Also, since my last comment I have fitted a pressure gage to my portafilter and adjusted the pressure down on my 6 year old machine from factory setting of about 12.5 to 9.5 Bar and it has not affected my steam quality. I hope this is helpful to someone.Grindshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06705518739371862861noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4814881861977660133.post-26097334982181910032021-04-17T07:05:08.227+01:002021-04-17T07:05:08.227+01:00Thank you for the post! I just finished reading it...Thank you for the post! I just finished reading it up and am very excited to <a href="https://coffeereliever.com/saeco-xelsis-espresso-machine-review/" rel="nofollow">xelsis espresso machine</a> the following series. Just wanted to let you know that your posts/thoughts/articles give me invaluable insights! I cannot really be thankful enough for all that you do! Currently finishing up your Narratives & Numbers as well. What a Gem as well!Gadget Portalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08521339981331940987noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4814881861977660133.post-65513797197576898352021-02-22T15:40:11.673+00:002021-02-22T15:40:11.673+00:00About 5 years ago these details helped me swap the...About 5 years ago these details helped me swap the wand out on my machine. I left the pressure as set by the factory and the machine has frothed milk ever since without issues. I suspect that lowering the pressure on your machine may have slowed down the steam production and flow. Grindshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06705518739371862861noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4814881861977660133.post-12638033022812132202021-02-22T07:54:12.793+00:002021-02-22T07:54:12.793+00:00I'm aware this is an old post so may not be se...I'm aware this is an old post so may not be serviced too often, but hopefully someone can offer some advice, i have made the upgrade to a sivia rancillo steam wand, this has a single hole, at the same time i reduced the opv to app 8-9 bar, the new wand doesn't froth the milk at all it just end up hot, also seems very noisy so i refitted the original to make sure it wasn't a pressure issue, old wand still fine, have i fitted the wrong wand or tip? TIAAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07807364188918598903noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4814881861977660133.post-66591805274241637112020-09-11T18:07:58.430+01:002020-09-11T18:07:58.430+01:00I just bought the latest model Gaggia Classic Pro....I just bought the latest model Gaggia Classic Pro. It came with a two-hole tip, not the panerello.<br />For 20 years I made perfect micro foam with 2 different Saeco machines that I bought at Starbucks. They were both single hole. I simply cannot do it with the two-hole tip. Does your method work with my machine? model RI9380/ 46<br />BarbaraHafnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06740288946114926575noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4814881861977660133.post-64844065351908022342020-08-31T23:00:05.043+01:002020-08-31T23:00:05.043+01:00I was able to upgrade my pre 2015 gaggia classic w...I was able to upgrade my pre 2015 gaggia classic with "Rancilio Silvia V3 Steam Wand Kit" my coper main pipe was moved down a bit, because my previous wand V1/V2 was stuck and I had to pull it down to come off. After this I was able to install the new wand and man does it steam fast. I ordered a two whole tip which should arrive soon. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14035386657478855685noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4814881861977660133.post-60804924620047474382020-04-08T15:14:25.154+01:002020-04-08T15:14:25.154+01:00Excellent work. I really appreciate to your qualit...Excellent work. I really appreciate to your quality work. I hope for more help <a href="https://espressocoffeemakersale.com/best-gaggia-espresso-machine/" rel="nofollow">best price gaggia classic espresso machine</a> will best. <br />Amaya Alveshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09469071885624767061noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4814881861977660133.post-12482076372723707892020-02-16T12:24:44.165+00:002020-02-16T12:24:44.165+00:00https://www.wholelattelove.com/products/gaggia-cla...https://www.wholelattelove.com/products/gaggia-classic-pro-full-steam-wand-assemblyAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04960769734744387303noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4814881861977660133.post-84286777963501993862018-12-26T06:18:13.541+00:002018-12-26T06:18:13.541+00:00Hey Josh, I'd love a fitting, If you use paypa...Hey Josh, I'd love a fitting, If you use paypal or cash app I can reimburse you. That is incredibly generous of you to offer by the way.Three Glasseshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13940636508990982089noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4814881861977660133.post-25159986310081946612018-12-09T22:53:56.413+00:002018-12-09T22:53:56.413+00:00I am glad you found this post useful and also than...I am glad you found this post useful and also thanks for being so kind with regard to offering surplus fittings you have to other people!Ruslan Kabalinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00455389293184492230noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4814881861977660133.post-4876469727868893142018-12-09T17:34:58.104+00:002018-12-09T17:34:58.104+00:00hi josh. i'd like to take you up on your offe...hi josh. i'd like to take you up on your offer.furiouschadshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09850203421596413637noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4814881861977660133.post-87338323519523508792018-12-04T22:35:56.901+00:002018-12-04T22:35:56.901+00:00It's Chile too far ?It's Chile too far ?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06890111176111220734noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4814881861977660133.post-48040982334098864462018-09-25T01:38:58.209+01:002018-09-25T01:38:58.209+01:00Yes tedious but worth it. Took a little practice a...Yes tedious but worth it. Took a little practice and watching some YouTube's to get the frothing down. And I still use a thermometer when I froth. I didn't find the new wand to be any lower than stock wand and have learned to froth in single serve-sized pitcher and a double-sized. Thought I would, but never did PID it. I get very acceptable results and I have so many other projects. I do keep a schedule to descale every 6 months even though our city water is pretty good. I clean a little more frequently with Puly brand cleaner. Changed the brewhead gasket at about the 2 year mark. I was a little skeptical about this brand but it's worked out well after this wand change. I think it would have been frustrating with the original stock wand. I was very happy to find Ruslan's blog and generous info!Grindshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06705518739371862861noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4814881861977660133.post-33909880229636811812018-09-24T20:47:23.616+01:002018-09-24T20:47:23.616+01:00Thanks for your quick reply, Grinds. I see, you we...Thanks for your quick reply, Grinds. I see, you were using closely-spaced dowels fixed in place as leverage to wrap the tubing around. I did pretty much the same but pressed the tubing around whatever other strong cylindrical shapes I could find - a stainless turkey baster and a railing on my kitchen range, with the former providing the best results: https://timblaktu.smugmug.com/Gaggia/i-s7Mk4fq/A<br /><br />As you probably remember, this was an extremely tedious process, with dozens of "bend, put in place and check fit" iterations.<br /><br />Even with it finished, I'm still having trouble getting used to frothing with this machine, since the new wand is so low - only the smallest of pitchers works, and even with that you cannot fill it fully without spilling after frothing because of the tilt required to clear the wand tip. Do you have this experience?<br /><br />Glad to hear your Gaggia is running strong after 3 years! Did you end up putting a PID on this, or do you temp surf with the controls? Cheers, mate.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01107181283929468831noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4814881861977660133.post-25680404980359680822018-09-24T03:56:07.381+01:002018-09-24T03:56:07.381+01:00Hi Tim. I don't have pics of the bending tool,...Hi Tim. I don't have pics of the bending tool, as it was three years ago and long gone. Hopefully this explanation can help. I drilled a 3/8" and 1"hole in a small piece of wood. I left a space between the holes that was approximately equal to the diameter of the tubing to bend. Then inserted a short length if 3/8" and 1" wood dowel in the holes. By placing the tubing between the dowels the tubing can be bent around the dowels. As noted I filled with salt and proceeded carefully. BTW 3 years and my gaggia is still going strong.Grindshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06705518739371862861noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4814881861977660133.post-18772261743126789142018-09-23T19:20:29.786+01:002018-09-23T19:20:29.786+01:00Grinds, I'm curious if you could share more ab...Grinds, I'm curious if you could share more about your wood bending tool. I've also hit a wall with bending by hand, even with a vice, salt-filled tubing, also heated with a blow torch. The issue I'm having is that the bend I need to make is as close to the base (bottom) of the steam tube as possible, so that the steam pipe will clear the steam valve/knob just above it. I bought my hardware from Stefano's so I probably have more height to have to fit in the same space. (Same problem Jaja mentions below).<br /><br />So I'm looking for visuals/advice for how to make this bend. I'd really rather not resort to gripping it with channel locks. I'm thinking the net step would be to grip the hex nut with wrench, and press the lowest part of the (heated) pipe against a block of wood. I'm just afraid of compromising the weld joint between the long brass hex nut and the copper pipe. Will take some photos and report back what I ended up doing, but just curious in the meantime if you had any photos to share.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01107181283929468831noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4814881861977660133.post-67528225590976068952018-09-23T18:47:57.078+01:002018-09-23T18:47:57.078+01:00Oops I accidentally pasted the link to Jared's...Oops I accidentally pasted the link to Jared's gallery. Here's mine: https://timblaktu.smugmug.com/GaggiaAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01107181283929468831noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4814881861977660133.post-5183081423467253922018-09-23T17:46:30.342+01:002018-09-23T17:46:30.342+01:00Jaja do you have any photos of your project? Im gl...Jaja do you have any photos of your project? Im glad you pointed out the height issue with Stefano's part. I'm in the middle of this mod, and will likely end up with everything inside the case (which apparently is the only way to make the wand usable due to ground clearance). Stefano's adapter has same hex profile as the original wand nut, and looks to be designed so one can lock it tight to the chassis (with the original wand nut outside the chassis), but if you do that, it is too low.<br /><br />I posted some photos here: https://goo.gl/photos/vboacu8nSHpMXf6fAAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01107181283929468831noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4814881861977660133.post-8335951701390757482018-09-23T17:14:28.153+01:002018-09-23T17:14:28.153+01:00butmangle = typobutmangle = typoAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01107181283929468831noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4814881861977660133.post-7856834965251407722018-09-23T17:09:42.400+01:002018-09-23T17:09:42.400+01:00It's important bc after this mod there is cons...It's important bc after this mod there is considerably less "ground clearance" for you to fit a pitcher under the wand. This is not discussed here much but should be. I am in the middle of this mod and am finding this a much more critical aspect than the inner diameter of the brass adapter. Maybe the parts available now are much better than 3 years ago.. <br /><br />See photos here: https://timblaktu.smugmug.com/Gaggia/i-LWXCXXz<br /><br />I was first wanting to mount with the SS nut outside the machine case, so i wouldn't have to butmangle the steam pipe so much but as you can see in the photos this would be unusable BC of the height issue.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01107181283929468831noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4814881861977660133.post-48970330759410821322018-08-18T05:16:33.227+01:002018-08-18T05:16:33.227+01:00About the 3/8 of an inch and mm conversion, this a...About the 3/8 of an inch and mm conversion, this are fittings and they 3/8 if just a name NOT THE ACTUAL DIMENSION OF THE FITTING. These fitting are NPT (National pipe thread) and they just gives name size names to the fittings, but they don't mean anything which personally I think is stupid and confusing. So the ACTUAL SIZE OF A NPT size 3/8 fitting is 0.675" or 17.145mm, you can google NPT fitting chart.willhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09741414728924649154noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4814881861977660133.post-50085160624702656912018-06-16T20:18:59.111+01:002018-06-16T20:18:59.111+01:00Hi Josh - I bought the wrong fitting and went to a...Hi Josh - I bought the wrong fitting and went to all the effort of boring it out, and then realized the threads were wrong. I would happily pay for shipping on one of your spares. Please let me know. Thanks!Adamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02020557767196170772noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4814881861977660133.post-79528531343972980352018-06-16T20:17:32.646+01:002018-06-16T20:17:32.646+01:00This comment has been removed by the author.Adamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02020557767196170772noreply@blogger.com